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The treaty at hand is mostly about greasing the wheels of the existing institutions - it benefits mostly the institutions themselves, starting with the Council.

When they try to come up with "tangible" "benefits" for citizens they usually turn out rather daft.

And this is probably by design, too. With the emphasis on subsidiarity and proportionality (everything should be done at the closest level to the citizen that is both practical and effective) most of what impacts the average citizen is done at the local or national level.

And I am not sure that's a bad thing, either: I'm a Spanish Federalist, not a French Centralist.

Can I ask again for a Swiss case-study diary? (Confederacy, local sovereignty, direct democracy)

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 10:22:09 AM EST
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And that is the communication challenge.

Local benefits are disconnected from the supranational institutions and systems, but local negatives are blamed by national institutions on the supranational, because it is easy, gets them off the hook, and 'who is going to check anyway?'

There are massive benefits realised by the redistribution of EU funding to underdeveloped regions or areas undergoing industrial transition. There are huge benefits in EU wide standardization and consumer protection. There are also large mistakes made (biofuels, paper reuse etc etc) but  no worse than the mistakes that national government regularly make.

The greatest benefit of the EU IMO is the sharing of diversity, of finding out there are many solutions. The existence of a better way of doing things in one country, can be a benefit to all countries.

That is what ET does on a minor scale - the sharing of diversity in solutions and the origination of imaginative solutions. If only ET could be scaled up!

But that would not solve the communication problem. We also share in  a style of language and presentation that does not appeal widely. ET is not consumer-ready, and perhaps should never be. But, as we have often discussed, the concepts and presentations developed here do need to reach audiences outside ET. And there are many audiences, each requiring a different type of communication style and content.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 11:06:41 AM EST
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We also share in  a style of language and presentation that does not appeal widely. ET is not consumer-ready, and perhaps should never be.

It would indeed be strange and no doubt frustrating if we were to speak to each other here in soundbites and ad slogans. Do you think a discussion forum of any interest is also going to have wide appeal?

This is not in defence of an exclusive, elitist yadda yadda watering-hole for intellectuals. Just that it's not the job of a community discussion blog to handle direct mainstream communication. That's a whole other job on its own.

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 11:37:23 AM EST
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But I also see no reason not to discuss what you call 'soundbites and ad slogans' - as we do. By analyzing them we can understand why needed change DOES NOT happen in a one-person-one-vote democratic society.

There's the message, the messenger and the passenger. All  3 need to be discussed and correlated imo. But as I said, there are no clear reasons why ET has to be consumer-ready.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 at 12:19:46 PM EST
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Incidentally, reducing an explanation of marketing communications to soundbites and slogans is a bit like saying the Tour de France is about tight pants and yellow jerseys ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jul 24th, 2008 at 04:27:55 AM EST
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